Old Man Logan Vs The Last Ronin
Old Man Logan, What Remains of The Wolverine.
The Last Ronin, The Final Ninja Turtle.
Not every future can be so hopeful, not every story has a happy ending. These two mutant heroes are known for their fun superhero adventures, but in another universe things turn out different. The last of their teams, with no family, these two broken heroes fight against a corrupted world in hopes of fixing their past mistakes. However, against each other, who will really be the last one standing. Will Logan’s ferocity and claws tear open his deadly foe? Or will Ronin turn this X-Man into an Ex-man?
Before We Start…
This may or may not be common knowledge, but these two characters reside in very specific universes far from what is usually known for their classic counterparts.
For Logan, we will specifically be looking at Earth-807128. This means only the original Old Man Logan story and any continuation of it that resides in the same universe. While Old Man Logan has appeared in Earth-616 (Main Universe) a plethora of times, that is a completely different Old Man Logan. That version is from Earth-21923. Sorry Marvel Bros, no 616 scaling.
For Ronin, we will specifically be looking at the original “The Last Ronin” comic run but also the continuations of said run such as “Lost Years” and “Re-Evolution”. While published by IDW, it’s been stated that this version the turtles reside in their own continuity. Meaning while every other version of the turtles are connected in some fashion, TLR is its own story and universe. Sorry TMNT Bros. No ‘87, ‘03, ‘12, Rise, IDW, Mirage, Fleetway, Archie-catches breath- OVA, Mutant Mayhem, Manga, 90s Live Action Movies, Next Mutation, Michael Bay Films, ‘07, and Video Games scaling!
Background
Old Man Logan
“You think I am afraid to die? I’ve been trying for 50 DAMN YEARS.”
The Marvel universe holds a plethora of hero’s all of which have their fair share of villains. However some have always thought of a question, what if the villains teamed up to take down the heroes? Well then you end up with a timeline similar to Earth 807128. In this world all the villains decided enough was enough and wanted to take down every hero and control the world in their hands. So one day they launched a surprise attack catching everyone off guard all over the world. One by one the villains killed more and more hero’s and by the end they came out victorious dividing the world into sections where everyone rules with an Iron fist. However some hero’s manage to survive this attack, one of these survivors was the Wolverine, or as he prefers to be called now, Logan.
Now some might wonder how he became one of the last hero’s alive, well it's quite a tragic tale. Back when the villains launched their attacks one of their locations was Xavier’s school which holds The X-Men. Logan along with Jubilee were hit with several calls for backup all over the world, but before they could react a group of villains burst into the school surprising everyone. Logan trying to protect his friends tried fending them off so the kids and everyone can get to safety. Logan battled for what seemed like hours slowly killing every villain that was there, but after some struggle he came out victorious. However this victory was short lived and soon his mind went back to normal and saw the bodies of his fellow X-Men. In reality Logan was not fighting villains, but thanks to Mystero, Logan was tricked into killing all his friends.
This broke Logan making him a shell of his former self. He didn’t know what to do, but when he saw an oncoming train, he decided to try and end it all and put his head in front of the train. But his healing factor made that plan fail and Logan was still living. Seeing that he can’t die even if he wanted to, he knew that death was something he couldn’t have. So he decided that he would never pop his claws again and would kill the mantle of Wolverine and start a new life, a more simpler one.
50 years later he would, in a wasteland that the villains control, find a wife and start a family. But trouble would still find him. This would always come with the Hulk Clan, an inbred family from Bruce Banner himself and ruled the area which Logan lived. One day when coming for payment which Logan didn’t have they threatened his family if he didn’t double the payment by next month. Backed into a corner, Logan needed to find a way to get money fast, and thanks to his pal Hawkeye, who also survived the villain's attacks, told Logan if he helps him on a mission he could get the money for his family. While reluctant he agreed, seeing no other choice. So started a road trip where Logan and Hawkeye would go through hell getting past districts and almost dying several times. But in the end they made it to their location where Hawkeye would sell drugs in hopes of making a new super team. But the deal was a trick all in order to secure the drugs for Red Skull. Red Skull's army shot at Logan knocking him out and killed Hawkeye.
Hours later Logan would be transported to Red Skull base so he can be added to his trophies. But Logan would not go down easy and quickly woke up and battled Red Skull. After a short struggle Logan would kill Red Skull and quickly find the money so he can save his family. So he took one of Iron Man’s suits and with the little fuel it had left he flew back to his home, which he did, but sadly he was too late. The Hulk clan was bored and decided to kill Logan’s family. After seeing the bloody bodies of his wife and kids, Logan snapped and after 50 years popped his claws out once again and set out for revenge. So he went after the Hulk Clan and killed them all one by one, until he met Bruce Banner himself. The battle was brutal but in the end Bruce seemed to have won by eating Logan alive. But the one thing he didn’t consider was Logan's healing factor keeping him alive, so after being put together Logan ripped apart Bruce from the inside, killing him. Logan avenged his family and now came with a new purpose. He would wander the world all in hopes of finding a way to return this wasteland called earth back to normal. And as a bonus he would try and raise Bruce Banner grandchild, Bruce Banner Jr.
The Last Ronin
“I am sorry Father. I failed. Please…forgive me.”
In the streets of New York, two powerful families were at war with each other. These families were the Hamoto Clan which was led by Master Splinter along with his 4 sons known as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the Oroto clan which held the dangerous Foot Clan and led by Oroto Saki who you might know as The Shredder. For years these families knew nothing but death, however that all changed when The Shredder daughter, Karai tried ending this war and made an alliance with the Hamoto clan. They agreed and for a while the war had ended…until it wasn’t. Surprising absolutely no one, The Foot clan betrayed them and the war started once again. Over 10 years both families would battle, however it would soon end with the new head of the Oroto clan, Oroto Hiroto, Karai's son took over.
Under his new leadership the Foot Clan quickly took down the remaining members of the Ninja Turtles and won the war. Shortly after Hiroto would take over New York making it his own empire under his rule. No one would dare challenge him until one fateful day where a mutant with black clothing would attack his tower and swear vengeance for his family. This wasn’t any mutant however, this was The Last Ronin!
Now who is this Last Ronin? Well while you might not expect it, it’s the reta- I MEAN the Orange Ninja Turtle Michelangelo! Yeah bet you didn’t expect that one. After the end of the war Mikey was the last of the ninja turtles alive. After the attack that led to Leonardo and Casey Jones death, Mikey would travel to Japan and learn of his brother Donatello and father Splinter death. With no family and now no purpose Mikey would wonder endlessly. He would land in a mountain where even in a cold storm he would not die but didn’t know why. For years he would reside there until a group of gang members would find Mikey there and attempt to kill him. Mikey would allow it, trying to feel something. This would quickly change after Mikey saw the looks of their faces, they were doing it for fun. They were taking a life for no purpose, no motivation, no reason at all. This angered Mikey, how could someone do this?
This angered Mikey and made him decide to pick himself back up. And during some village attack which isn’t important to the main story and seeing the ghosts of his dead brothers Mikey set himself a goal to avenge his family and kill Hiroto. Traveling back to New York he found it a futuristic nightmare under Hiroto rule. After a failed attack and a suicide attempt which failed he was found by Casey Marie Jones who is the daughter of April who was actually still alive. April quickly brought Mikey up to speed on their situation and tried convincing him to join the resistance. Which unsure at first Mikey would soon join them.
Quickly The Resistance turned the tides against Hiroto taking over Baster Stockmen island which held the power to most of New York, leaving Hiroto tower almost powerless. This was the opening Mikey needed to do one final attack against The Foot Clan. After a long battle he would soon come face to face with Hiroto ready to end the war between the Hamoto clan and Oroto clan. While the battle was brutal and long, in the end, The Ronin came out victorious, killing Hiroto. However he didn’t come out unscathed and was on the verge of death himself. With his final breath he taught Casey one last lesson. Even though you can learn all the weapons, learn every martial art, know every technique, they would all mean nothing unless you learn peace within yourself.
Experience & Skill
Old Man Logan
When living in a wasteland where anything can kill you obviously Logan has some notable skills. First off it’s important to note that even in this different universe Logan backstory is still somewhat the same, meaning he has lived for at least 100 years and has fought in several wars. He was also a capable X-Men and most likely fended off several villains as well. However other than that Logan quite literally didn’t do anything after the villains launched their attack due to Logan vowing to never use his claws again.
Though that did change when avenging his family and Logan showed some level of skill being able to stealthily kill several Hulk Clan members with relative ease. Likewise when starting his direct attack on the clan he was able to kill all of them on his own before getting to Bruce. Even after the events in the main story Logan also worked with the newly formed Fantastic Force and became a capable member. And finally Logan is actually a good mentor and father figure for his adopted son Bruce Banner Jr. showing him the roots of being a hero and helping him with tough decisions.
The Last Ronin
At a very young age The Ronin was trained in the art of ninjutsu along with his brothers. Even before the events in the story he was in a war with the foot for at least 10 years. While we’re not given the exact details of the war in the comics given he was still alive after 10 years after going on possibly several missions is very impressive. During both Lost Years and the main comics we also get a deeper dive on his training. As stated by The Ronin he has read his fathers book multiple times and was able to learn about every form of martial art. On top of that he was trained by Master Yip who also trained Splinter several martial arts as well for a year and a half before completing his training. This is shown on several accounts given he can take down groups of enemies on his own with little to no trouble (shown above) and he was able to take down two elite ninja robots. He is also just as skilled as both Hiroto and Raphael who both were able to take down groups of foot soldiers on their own.
His experience is also very notable. As stated before along with his brothers the Ronin was in a war that lasted for ten years. Along with it during Lost Years The Ronin was battling a gang for multiple years and when he was trapped in a gladiator ring The Ronin was able to keep winning for 2 years. And while it wasn’t for long The Ronin was also a decent teacher being able to train Casey Marie Jones who is April and the normal Casey daughter.
Equipment
Old Man Logan
X-Ray goggles
Goggles which were given to him from Hawkeye which allows Logan to see inside a building. The goggles were so good that Logan can give a detailed structure of the building's security.
Bombs
Logan during his raid against the Hulk clan has used a bunch of bombs which he used to kill a large portion of Brune Banners family.
Horse
It’s a horse, not much else to say.
The Last Ronin
Katana
The broken blade which previously belonged to Leonardo the Blue Ninja Turtle. Even though he only has half the blade, The Ronin can still use it to cut down foes.
Bo Staff
A long wooden stick which was used by the purple Ninja Turtle Donatello. Even though the weapon doesn’t seem deadly at first glance the weapon still grants The Ronin good medium range and if it’s broken The Ronin can always just throw it like he did against Hiroto.
Sais
These close range weapons were used by Raphael The Red Ninja Turtle. Because of its lack of range they’re perfect for close combat which can rip apart an opponent if given the chance.
Nunchucks
The final weapon which used to be The Ronin main weapon when he was the Yellow Ninja Turtle. While these weapons aren’t deadly on paper they still serve as good close range weapons when given to the right hands because of their blunt nature and their quick attacks.
Tonfa
When The Ronin was blind for a bit (more on that later) he soon found a new weapon which he thought fit him perfectly. Tonfas are close range weapons which also act as good defense when used. As a plus the Tonfa can emit an EMP which The Ronin can use.
Grappling Hook
A classic Ninja tool for anyone. With it The Ronin can reach greater distances out of his reach.
Ninja Stars
Little projectiles that The Ronin can throw.
Throwing Knives
They basically serve the same function as the Ninja stars lol.
Bombs
The Ronin has shown to have a number of explosive weaponry on hand. This includes normal bombs, Sticky Bombs, Smoke Bombs, Thermite Grenades which are powerful enough to shake a whole building, Flash Bangs, and a Concussion blast. Who knew a turtle needed so much explosives.
Armor
The Ronin has shown to wear armor under his cloak which would protect him with stab wounds and any other injuries.
Abilities
Old Man Logan
Healing Factor
One of Logan’s most infamous abilities is his healing factor. When he was in his prime Logan was capable of healing from just about any attack including getting his head run over by a train. However because of his old age Logan's healing factor has become weaker to the point Logan took hours to heal just from getting beaten up from the Hulk Clan. Also more fatal injuries take a long time to heal like for example Logan getting crushed by the statue of liberty which took an unknown amount of time for Logan to fully recover and most notably, taking about 12 hours to heal after Bruce Banner ate him alive.
Another big thing with Logan regen is the possibility that knocking him out can possibly stop the healing factor working. When the Red Skull gang shot up Logan and killed Hawkeye, Logan was knocked out for a few hours. However when he started to wake up it was noted that his wounds started to heal. So it's very possible if Logan is knocked out cold his healing factor would essentially turn off.
Adamantium Claws
Another notable ability of Logan is his Adamantium claws. As most know these are a result of his natural bone claw mutation and his Adamantium skeleton. Adamantium in this universe is still extremely powerful with the only other thing capable of stopping it being- well- Adamantium! With these bad boys Logan is able to contend with those far outside his weight class giving him an opportune chance to level the playing field. They allow him to slice through chains, people, and even giant robots!
Enhanced Smell
While other versions of Wolverine have shown great feats of smelling. This version of Logan hasn’t shown any notable showcases other than the fact we know he has it.
The Last Ronin
Mutant Physiology
When The Ronin and his three brothers were just little baby turtles they came across ooz which turned them into the mutant ninja fighting team we know today. Being a mutant, The Ronin was granted super strength, speed, and durability. However over the years the ooz evolved and made The Ronin more powerful. For example as noted by April, The Ronin is now way stronger and faster then he was before, even having a small healing factor that could heal his broken bones. His mutant body also allows The Ronin to survive deadly conditions like surviving being in a snowstorm on top of a mountain with no food and still surviving. And to top it off later The Ronin was capable of swimming through toxic waters and was completely fine.
Enhanced Senses
During Lost Years The Ronin unintentionally went through a radioactive waste land and because of that became blind for a few years. Thankfully he was rescued by a Mongolian clan which took care of him and trained The Ronin to use his other senses. Because of this even without his sight The Ronin can use sound and smells to know when attacks are coming to avoid them. However it's not all perfect as if The Ronin relies on the senses for long periods of time it can be overwhelming.
Feats
Old Man Logan
Overall
Defeated Red Skull and the Hulk Clan
Defeated a few Alternate versions of Wolverine
Outwitted an alternate universe Onslaught
Was a member of the Fantastic Force
Helped save millions of people from a dying planet
Got a god pregnant to save said people. No we’re not kidding
Power
Speed
He can also run fast! (seen above)
He also…
….he also dodged uhhhh…
…Yeah no this man has NO speed feats of his own lmao
Durability
Took a punch from Bruce Banner which sent him crashing into a RV
Took a hit from Bruce Banner in a armor which sent him flying
Scales to Hawkeye who can survive a small explosion about the size of himself
Hawkeye fights a character who can cause this explosion (0.0009 Tons, Large Building)
While this wouldn’t scale to any character physically, Logan’s claws would upscale this
The Last Ronin
Overall
Survived a 10 year battle with his family
Defeated Hiroto and avenged his fallen family
Learned everything there is to know about being a Ninja
Took back New York ready for the next generation
Became the best TMNT comic run period! (Hi Hi wrote this and he’s very bias)
Power
Could punch out a robot (Shown above)
Speed
Can dodge a incoming train (Shown above)
Should match Donnie who was able to block Splinter from incoming arrows
Was able to dodge a laser shot from a robot (Debatable)
Durability
Survive a robot exploding right in his face (Shown above)
Could survive a explosion that flew him up in the air (0.001 Tons, Wall)
Was able to Survive a store exploding that sent The Ronin across town (0.1 Tons, Large Building)
Weaknesses
Old Man Logan
With old age comes many things, but it also has its faults. For Logan over the years he’s become physically much weaker compared to the Wolverine most people know. Most notably his healing factor has become much worse and less reliable. Logan also as result of the trauma he’s endured has become more depressive and reckless in his actions, especially in fights. Logan is often haunted by the experience and guilt of killing his fellow X-men and hates himself for it. This has reached to the point where Logan in his bouts would let himself be either pummeled and beaten, actively wanting to die. This is very similar in fighting style to your average Wolverine, but in cases where the healing factor is much worse. This acts more of a hindrance.
The Last Ronin
Even with all his training and feats, The Ronin is far from being the perfect ninja. Even with the years of his mutation growing it doesn’t mean The Ronin is invincible and going through enough pain can put him out. This also means his healing factor isn't something he can rely on and more something that heals over time instead of instantly. Lastly while it isn’t obvious The Ronin being depressed and traumatized from the events he went through has made his thought process questionable. What we mean by this is that The Ronin can very easily accept defeat and doubt plans. The biggest example is his first attack towards Hiroto tower, when he saw failure he immediately was set on killing himself thinking he failed his family. While he got better with it at the end of the main story it still has its lingering effects.
Before the Verdicts
Logan Kills the X-Men
So if you are familiar with the Old Man Logan story you know that the event that made Logan go mad was him killing all the X-Men. So what’s the deal with this? Does Logan fully scale to every X-Men even people like Storm and IceMan?
Put simply, No lmfao.
Firstly you need to keep in mind these are not the 616 X-Men we know and love but instead a different universe counterpart. So it would be weird to automatically assume they can do the same cosmic level feats to the main versions. But if we do say they’re capable of similar levels of power there is something our dear reader that makes this scan invalid and that is called Context! See in the story Mysterio used his gas and made Logan lose his mind. In Logan's mind he was facing over 40 villains and killed them all, however it's soon revealed that Mysterio used his gas and tricked Logan to kill all his friends. And the big thing is Mysterio even said that Logan would stand no chance against 40 villains on his own but against his friends he would win because they held back and were hesitant to fight Logan. This piece of Info makes it apparent that his friends didn’t want to fight him in the first place and most likely held back before it was too late making it so Logan shouldn’t scale to any of them. So Old Man Logan is not a Marvel Herald, you hate to see it.
Last Ronin Laser Dodging
If you are at all familiar with The Last Ronin stats you might be surprised to see a lack of laser feats. Well that’s because we came to the conclusion that these laser feats aren’t legit. Now why is that? Well the problem lies with how when looking at the “feats” it’s clear that The Ronin is most likely not dodging them. There are instances where The Ronin is just standing still or the Robots just have stormtrooper level aim when fighting the ronin. Sometimes the lasers aren’t even near him when shooting.
Now there is one instance in the first issue of the main comic where The Ronin very clearly dodges a laser. Now the problem with this is that it’s not actually called a laser. It’s never stated as such and unlike the robots lasers which are stated to be lasers by The Ronin, these ones are different which you can tell by the different colors both shoot.
Red laser
Yellow Laser
So overall the laser feats are most likely not viable at all so they will not affect the verdict.
Hawkeye Speed Feat
Similarly to the Last Ronin, Hawkeye has his own awkward laser feat (as shown above). However it’s for different reasons. A lot of these issues really stem from the fact it’s one panel. Firstly we aren’t sure of the action being performed, it’s unclear if Hawkeye himself dodged and if he’s even moving in tandem. Similarly to as above it could be a case of poor aim. There’s also the validity of the laser. While we see it burn through the trees, that is all we know about it. It would be unjustified to say it’s an actual laser without it not being called one and just off of one instance. Lastly, if Hawkeye were to dodge this and it were to be an actual laser, this would be far above anything this continuity has shown. One of the biggest narratives points amongst most in this continuity, is the idea these heroes are weaker than what we are used to. Having this absurdly high speed feat out of nowhere simply falls in line with the rest of the story. Especially based on one small panel.
Verdict
Stats
This one is a real doozy. Both of these characters are far more grounded than their usual counterparts when it comes to stats. First and foremost, both of these characters are relatively even when it comes to speed. Both are around similar levels of bullet timing whether it be direct or through scaling. While you could argue semantics ultimately this specific stat would more often than not still be similar. Even if you were to use higher speed scaling for one, the other could match with equal leeway. AP and Durability are much harder to pin down an advantage to since both effectively have a leg up in this regard. Let’s go with Ronin first. Ronin was able to directly tank an explosion that sent him halfway across the neighborhood. This feat would end up being 0.1 tons, Small Building level. For Logan, his claws at bare minimum should upscale this explosion feat that yields 0.0009 tons which is also Small Building. Seemingly close right?
Well here’s where complications arise. Logan himself doesn’t scale said feat specifically, only his Skeleton and Claws would. Hawkeye who’s on par with Logan had to completely avoid this explosion implying he wouldn’t survive it if hit. Of course with how powerful Adamantium is, it should naturally upscale this feat. There’s also the fact the claws are piercing weapons. While Ronin would be stronger and tougher than the explosion feat, there’s no reason to assume he would not be affected by said piercing. Similarly to knife and a person, Logan effectively could one shot if he got a good hit on Ronin. This would have to be either of his vital organs as while Robin’s healing factor is good, he would still be susceptible to such fatal blows.
So Logan’s Claws are strong enough to overcome Ronin, but what about the other way around. As said before, Logan himself doesn’t scale to what his claws should.However even if we were to scale him physically, he’d still be around 100 times weaker. Even a casual attack from Ronin would leave Logan in a fatal state. Effectively both in the right conditions would be able to ONE-SHOT each other.
However the big deciding factor is how they can go about it. Although only Logan’s claws can do this, it’s still his main method of attack. Meanwhile, Ronin would be AP stomping with whatever attack he does. For these reasons, it’s safer to call this category more of a DRAW if anything. Although conventionally with AP, Ronin would take.
Arsenal & Abilities
When it comes to abilities, both of these combatants are relatively straightforward. Both utilize powers that the other have with only minor advantages here and there. However what really makes this tricky is Logan. Logan has the biggest advantage and biggest disadvantage in this scenario. While his Claws are powerful, allowing him to really need one solid hit to end the fight. In terms of weaponry it’s effectively all he has. Against an opponent as skilled and experienced as Ronin, Logan’s claws and his fighting style would quickly become predictable.
On the opposite end, Logan would have a much harder time doing the same for Mikey’s much more expansive arsenal. While there’s no doubt Logan could do the same for each individual weapon, Ronin would still have more options at play with potential to even combine his tactics. The nunchucks, swords, sais, and staff all already require their own styles needed for Logan to adapt. Throwing in stuff like Ronin’s explosives, Logan would be hard pressed to get anything over Mikey. Speaking of explosions, Mikey also has the massive advantage of range. He can fight from a distance with shurikens and throwing knives. With the aptly mentioned explosives, he can fight and perform AOE attacks which Logan has no way of avoiding. However, Ronin can with his grappling hook along making the gap so he can solidly use his ranged options. Effectively, Logan would be overwhelmed in both close range and especially long range. With the latter not having any counters.
Although this would all be rendered moot due to Logan’s healing factor right? Not exactly. Unlike the Wolverine most people know, Old Man Logan’s healing abilities are much more inconsistent and unreliable. With sufficient force or pressure, Logan’s healing factor can be overtaxed and stop working. Especially if he’s knocked out. Remember that Ronin has a healing factor as well and while it can’t heal as much, it’s more reliable in a fight. Weapons like tonfas, the staff, concussion grenades, and coincidentally enough nunchucks are all weapons that utilize blunt force. All of these being able to knock out Logan if given the chance.
While Logan has a major advantage in his claws, he just has too many weaknesses to truly say he takes the edge in this category. Ronin in this case is just much well rounded and able to utilize these downsides to his own advantage. So the Last Ronin takes this category.
Tertiary Factors
These two generally speaking don’t have a lot, all things considered. However there’s one final aspect that’s extremely important especially in one that’s close as this. That being their mentality. Both of these former heroes are shells of their past selves, broken by trauma. There’s one key difference between these two and how trauma molded them. For Ronin, he used it to seek vengeance for his family. Live up to the potential he had. After the rest of his family died, while he did have his hopeless moments, Ronin did not give up until he fixed his past mistakes. Growing as a result. Logan on the other hand gave up. While he’s still formidable in his own right, he was out of the game for a long time because of his guilt. This guilt is still prevalent in his fights. Logan already relies on his lofty healing factor in fights, but add his sorrow and this becomes much worse. Often mid fight Logan will throw everything he has down to let himself get beaten or even killed. He’s admitted this himself. While we can’t say that in a bout like this Logan would just let himself lose outright, it does show a huge case of recklessness. Considering the advantages Ronin already had prior, that is what Logan needs the least in this battle. Such a mentality would let the Last Ronin edge out in this category.
Conclusion
Old Man Logan
Advantages:
One-Shots if given a good clean chance…
Relative Speed
Healing Factor is more potent than Ronin’s…
Arguably as skilled and experienced
Has fought and beaten foes stronger than him already.
Skeleton makes him tough to put down normally even despite the AP gap.
Has one of the best Superhero movies.
He’s the best at what he does, but what he does isn’t very good.
Disadvantages:
..Although Logan needs to target specific areas to do so.
..but can effectively be nulled completely.
Pretty much only has one weapon which can make him predictable.
Effectively many more exploitable weakness.
Physically is weaker barring claws.
Has no range methods
Depressed as hell (can’t blame him though)
Why there gotta be TWO Old Man Logan’s???
The Last Ronin
"Yeah. It does. It smells like…home."
Advantages:
Much Stronger and Tougher…
Likely as skilled and experienced
Relative Speed
Wider Arsenal
Actually has ranged and AOE options
Concussive/Blunt weapons would be able to overtax and null Logan’s healing factor
More Mobile
Has one of the best comic runs of all time.
Bro’s getting a movie AND a game soon!
Disadvantages:
But can get one shot if Logan gets a good hit.
Inferior healing capabilities
Win conditions aren’t as straightforward as Logan.
Depressed as hell (just like Logan fr)
Like Wiz once said, “Mikey is the-
This battle is really close in a plethora of ways. Both could one shot each other if given the chance and both were at relative speed to do so. Both are extremely skilled, experienced, and can take a beating. Although what really turned the tide was Ronin making up for Logan’s shortcomings. Wider arsenal makes it harder for Logan to navigate around it especially when his own arsenal is limited and straightforward. Logan’s healing factor can do a lot, but any strong hit from Mikey will shut that off nigh instantly. Logan can kill Ronin instantly if given the chance but that only works up close, and he has 0 defense against Ronin fighting from afar nor anyway to close the gap. Lastly, Logan’s fighting style and mentality always had put him in the position of taking hits head on. Against an opponent who has several ways of killing Logan with his attacks, and can do so without any drawbacks. This way of thinking would ultimately mean the end for the Last X-Men. While this Old Man was tough to put down and had chances to pull off a win, Michelangelo with his arsenal and strength really showed why he's the best at what he does. The winner is THE LAST RONIN!
Old Man Logan- 0 (RIP boomer)
The Last Ronin- 2 (Hi Hi and Lofty)
Special thanks to RedHeadedElf and The Bite Raptor for calcs! Happy 40th Anniversary of TMNT and 50 years of Wolverine!!
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